SECCION Crisis monetaria: US/EURO, dolar vs otras monedas

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Evolucion del dolar contra el euro

US Dollar to Euro Exchange Rate Graph - Jan 7, 2004 to Jan 5, 2009

V. SECCION: M. PRIMAS

1. SECCION:materias primas en linea:precios


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17 feb 2009

PERU:DESACELERACION EN DICIEMBRE

Economia
El Perú crece pero ya muestra desaceleración

cuadro14PBI creció 9.84% en el 2008 pero en diciembre expansión fue de 4.9%, la tasa más baja del año.
En el 2008, el Producto Bruto Interno (PBI) creció 9.84%, la cifra más alta en 14 años y una de las tasas más elevadas de América Latina, sin embargo, el país empezó a sentir los efectos de la crisis financiera internacional. Según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística e Informática (INEI), en diciembre la economía creció 4.9%, la tasa más baja del 2008.

Las cifras del INEI muestran que esta desaceleración comenzó en octubre cuando después de alcanzar un crecimiento de 11.5% en setiembre, la tasa bajó a 9.16% en el mes morado. En noviembre la expansión de la producción fue de 6.36%.
“Se está dando una fuerte desaceleración por la caída de los precios de los minerales y el consumo de inversión privada que se verá reflejado en la tasa de desempleo del Perú al finalizar el 2009”, comentó el catedrático de la Universidad San Ignacio de Loyola (Usil), Kurt Burneo.
Por su parte, el catedrático de la Universidad de Lima, Javier Zúñiga, estimó que los sectores que se verán más afectados por esta desaceleración serán construcción y minería.

Construyendo
Según el INEI, la construcción con un avance de 16.46% sigue sosteniendo el crecimiento de la economía. El jefe del INEI, Renán Quispe, afirmó que con el Plan Anticrisis dado por el gobierno, se cumplirá con la meta de crecimiento de 6% en el 2009.
El INEI también informó que en enero, el Índice de Precios al Consumidor (IPC) registró una variación de 0.03%, la menor tasa en 24 meses. En diciembre del 2008 la inflación mensual fue de 0.35%, con lo cual llegó en términos anuales a 7.32%.

Desempleo sube en 8.8%
Según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística e Informática (INEI), en el periodo noviembre del 2008 hasta enero del presente año la tasa de desempleo creció 8.8%.“El número de desempleados es uno de cada cien personas y en ese periodo (noviembre – enero) es de 31,000”, indicó el jefe del INEI, Renán Quispe Llanos.
Entre los principales afectados por el desempleo se encuentran los jóvenes entre 14 y 24 años de edad y las personas entre 25 y 44 años.
De acuerdo con las cifras, fue la población masculina la que tuvo mayor índice de personas desempleadas con 18,900, mientras que la femenina llega a los 12,300. Sin embargo, en ese mismo trimestre el ingreso mensual de las personas que trabajan se incrementó en 11.6% con respecto al mismo periodo anterior.

PERU:DESACELERACION EN DICIEMBRE

Economia
El Perú crece pero ya muestra desaceleración

cuadro14PBI creció 9.84% en el 2008 pero en diciembre expansión fue de 4.9%, la tasa más baja del año.
En el 2008, el Producto Bruto Interno (PBI) creció 9.84%, la cifra más alta en 14 años y una de las tasas más elevadas de América Latina, sin embargo, el país empezó a sentir los efectos de la crisis financiera internacional. Según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística e Informática (INEI), en diciembre la economía creció 4.9%, la tasa más baja del 2008.

Las cifras del INEI muestran que esta desaceleración comenzó en octubre cuando después de alcanzar un crecimiento de 11.5% en setiembre, la tasa bajó a 9.16% en el mes morado. En noviembre la expansión de la producción fue de 6.36%.
“Se está dando una fuerte desaceleración por la caída de los precios de los minerales y el consumo de inversión privada que se verá reflejado en la tasa de desempleo del Perú al finalizar el 2009”, comentó el catedrático de la Universidad San Ignacio de Loyola (Usil), Kurt Burneo.
Por su parte, el catedrático de la Universidad de Lima, Javier Zúñiga, estimó que los sectores que se verán más afectados por esta desaceleración serán construcción y minería.

Construyendo
Según el INEI, la construcción con un avance de 16.46% sigue sosteniendo el crecimiento de la economía. El jefe del INEI, Renán Quispe, afirmó que con el Plan Anticrisis dado por el gobierno, se cumplirá con la meta de crecimiento de 6% en el 2009.
El INEI también informó que en enero, el Índice de Precios al Consumidor (IPC) registró una variación de 0.03%, la menor tasa en 24 meses. En diciembre del 2008 la inflación mensual fue de 0.35%, con lo cual llegó en términos anuales a 7.32%.

Desempleo sube en 8.8%
Según el Instituto Nacional de Estadística e Informática (INEI), en el periodo noviembre del 2008 hasta enero del presente año la tasa de desempleo creció 8.8%.“El número de desempleados es uno de cada cien personas y en ese periodo (noviembre – enero) es de 31,000”, indicó el jefe del INEI, Renán Quispe Llanos.
Entre los principales afectados por el desempleo se encuentran los jóvenes entre 14 y 24 años de edad y las personas entre 25 y 44 años.
De acuerdo con las cifras, fue la población masculina la que tuvo mayor índice de personas desempleadas con 18,900, mientras que la femenina llega a los 12,300. Sin embargo, en ese mismo trimestre el ingreso mensual de las personas que trabajan se incrementó en 11.6% con respecto al mismo periodo anterior.

A.Latina:derrumbe en los mercados

Mercados A.Latina se derrumban por temor economía global

martes 17 de febrero de 2009 13:22 GYT

BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - Acciones y monedas de América Latina se derrumbaban el martes, presionadas por una creciente aversión al riesgo avivada por los temores a una aguda recesión global y la extrema debilidad del sector financiero.

Las bolsas de la región perdían terreno, así como los precios de las materias primas, que acompañaban la debilidad de los mercados mundiales, azuzados por el temor a que sean insuficientes los esfuerzos de Washington por evitar una profundización de la recesión en Estados Unidos.

En Brasil, la mayor economía de América Latina, se desplomaban acciones y moneda.

El índice Bovespa de la Bolsa de Valores de Sao Paulo, caía un 4,65 por ciento, a 39.896,27 puntos, frente a las 41.841 unidades del cierre del lunes, cuando ganó un 0,4 por ciento.

"El mercado está aguardando explicaciones sobre el funcionamiento del plan de socorro a los bancos y con temor a la quiebra de las automotrices en Estados Unidos", dijo Luiz Roberto Monteiro, asesor de inversiones de la correduría Souza Barros en Sao Paulo.

El real se depreciaba un 1,45 por ciento, a 2,311/2,313 por dólar en el mercado interbancario, al valorizarse la divisa estadounidense globalmente porque los inversores buscaban un refugio temerosos por la crisis global.

"Es el mal humor derivado de ese escenario de crisis", dijo Rodrigo Nassar, gerente de la mesa financiera de la correduría Hencorp Commcor.

La bolsa mexicana perdía un 3,38 por ciento, con el índice líder IPC en 18,861.60 unidades.

El peso mexicano se depreciaba un 1.02 por ciento, a 14.6600 por dólar.

El índice Reuters-Jefferies CRB, un referencial mundial de materias primas, cayó el martes a mínimos de 6 años y medio debido a que los precios del petróleo en Estados Unidos se desplomaron un 7 por ciento.

La Bolsa argentina profundizaba el martes sus pérdidas, con el índice Merval de Buenos Aires cayendo un 5,31 por ciento a 1.064,06 puntos.

La actual coyuntura mundial "lleva a un cuadro de ventas de posiciones en aquellos papeles de mayor liquidez por los temores a un recrudecimiento en la crisis financiera global", dijo Claudio Szlaien, analista de Marlon Recursos Financieros.

El peso argentino en el mercado interbancario caía un 0,21 por ciento a 3,5025/3,505, mientras que el informal bajaba el mismo porcentaje a 3,5425/3,5475.

En tanto, la bolsa de Chile también caía con fuerza, con el índice IPSA de las acciones líderes en la Bolsa de Comercio de Santiago bajando un 1,74 por ciento, a 2.586,57 puntos.

El peso chileno anotaba su segunda baja consecutiva operando el tipo de cambio spot en 593,00 pesos la compra y 593,50 pesos la venta.

(Con los reportes de Aluisio Alves, Jenifer Correa, Julio Villaverde en Brasil, Walter Bianchi en Buenos Aires, Lizbeth Salazar en Ciudad de México y Froilán Romero en Santiago, Escrito por Guido Nejamkis, Editado por Mario Naranjo)

Bloomberg news: Obama’s Economic Stimulus Bill Most Ambitious Since Roosevelt

Obama Economic Stimulus Bill Most Ambitious Since Roosevelt


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Mexico Peso and Bonds Weaken on Global Stock Market Decline



Bloomberg news: Ecuador’s Borja Vows to ‘Defend’ Use of U.S. Dollar (Update1)

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Bloomberg news: Euro Falls Below $1.26 on Bets Europe’s Bank Turmoil to Worsen

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Bloomberg news: U.K. to Cut RBS Bonus 90% to End ‘Reward for Failure’ (Update2)

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Bloomberg news: Allen Stanford Accused of ‘Massive, Ongoing’ Fraud (Update1)

Allen Stanford Accused of â??Massive, Ongoingâ?? Fraud (Update1)



RAW MATERIALS: OIL,COPPER,LEAD DROP

Oil, Copper Lead Drop in Commodities to Lowest Since June 2002

By Millie Munshi

Feb. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Commodities plunged to their lowest level since June 2002, led by energy and industrial metals, on mounting signs the global recession is deepening and that demand for raw materials will decline further.

The Reuters/Jefferies CRB Index of 19 prices dropped for the sixth straight day, the longest slump since December. The index touched 206.27, the lowest since June 26, 2002, and has slipped 10 percent this year. Crude oil fell as much as 7.4 percent today, and copper declined as much as 6.7 percent.

Manufacturing in New York contracted in February at the fastest pace on record, and Japan’s economy shrank in the fourth quarter at an annualized rate of 12.7 percent, the most severe contraction since 1974, government reports showed today. In 2008, the CRB index fell 36 percent, the most since its debut five decades ago, as recessions hit the U.S., Europe and Japan.

“When the economic numbers started coming out this morning, whatever hope was left in most commodity markets got pretty well deflated,” said Peter Sorrentino, who helps manage $15.5 billion at Huntington Asset Management in Cincinnati. “People are waiting to see the economy begin to pick up, which won’t happen until late this year. Until then, people will continue trading on emotion.”

The CRB index dropped 6.62, or 3.1 percent, to 206.52 at 11 a.m. New York time. The measure, which also includes the prices of crops and precious metals, declined 4 percent in January, the seventh straight monthly slide.”

Credit Losses, Stimulus Plan

Governments worldwide are trying to shore up economies saddled with more than $1 trillion in credit losses. President Barack Obama is scheduled today to sign a $787 billion stimulus plan to boost the U.S. economy. The plan won’t be enough to revive growth and boost demand for industrial commodities, said Gijsbert Groenewegen, a partner at Gold Arrow Capital Management.

Crude oil for March delivery fell $2.79, or 7.4 percent, to $34.72 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, after earlier touching $34.69. Prices are down 20 percent this year.

“The overwhelming focus of the market is the macroeconomic situation, not specific items about oil, which was the case in the past,” said Michael Fitzpatrick, vice president for energy at MF Global Ltd. in New York. “The market-directional cues will come from the economy for quite a while.”

Gold Rallies

Precious metals were the lone commodity gainers. Gold jumped to the highest price since July as equity markets plunged and on speculation that low interest rates and government spending will devalue currencies, boosting the appeal of bullion as an alternative. Silver and platinum also rose.

“People will continue to go for the precious metals now as the safe haven,” said Groenwegen of Gold Arrow. “This is the environment that is good for gold.”

Copper prices dropped to the lowest price since Feb. 3 in New York. Soybeans tumbled as much as 5.8 percent on the Chicago Board of Trade, and natural gas lost as much as 5.9 percent on the Nymex.

“There’s a view in the markets that the stimulus plan as it stands right now is not going to work,” said Tom Hartmann, a commodity analyst at AltaVest Worldwide Trading Inc. in Mission Viejo, California. “We’re definitely seeing deflation in the physical commodities. About the only thing up today is gold and the bond market. Everything else is red.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Millie Munshi in New York at mmunshi@bloomberg.net

BBCMundo.com: Despidos masivos en California

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BBCMundo.com: Obama firma, Brasil se queja

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Fwd: [Foro RdE] La crisis financiera


http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/02/03/elpais/p-01851688.htm

Saludos,

Hector Touzet

LA CRISIS FINANCIERA Y LA VISION DE UN EXPERTO

Al rescate de los incompetentes

Rechazaron su recusación a un juez que debe decidir si lo extradita a Francia.

Por: Paul Krugman
Fuente: The New York Times. Especial para Clarín

Pregunta: ¿Qué pasa si usted pierde enormes cantidades de plata de otro? Respuesta: Recibe un gran regalo del Estado nacional. Pero el Presidente dirá algunas cosas muy duras sobre usted antes de soltar el efectivo.

¿Estoy siendo injusto? Eso espero. Pero es lo que parece estar pasando.

Quiero aclarar algo: no me refiero al plan de la administración Obama para apoyar el empleo y la producción con un gran aumento temporario del gasto nacional, que es exactamente lo que hay que hacer. Me refiero, por el contrario, a los planes de la administración relativos a un rescate del sistema bancario, planes que se están armando como un clásico ejercicio de "socialismo limón": los contribuyentes cargan con el costo si las cosas salen mal, pero los accionistas y los ejecutivos reciben los beneficios si salen bien.

Cuando leo los comentarios recientes sobre política financiera de altos funcionarios de Obama, me siento en el túnel del tiempo, como si estuviéramos todavía en 2005, Allan Greenspan fuera el Maestro y los banqueros los héroes del capitalismo.

"Tenemos un sistema financiero que es dirigido por accionistas privados y manejado por entidades privadas y nos gustaría hacer todo lo posible por conservar ese sistema", dice Timothy Geithner, secretario del Tesoro, mientras se apresta a meter en problemas a los contribuyentes por las pérdidas enormes de ese sistema. Por su parte, The Washington Post dice que Geithner y Lawrence Summer, el principal asesor económico de Obama, "piensan que los Estados son malos como gerentes de bancos", en oposición seguramente a los genios del sector privado que se las ingeniaron para perder más de un billón de dólares en apenas unos años.

Ahora bien, algo hay que hacer para sacar a flote al sistema financiero. Permitir que grandes entidades financieras se desmoronen puede ser muy perjudicial para la salud de la economía. Y son muchas las entidades importantes al borde del abismo.

O sea que los bancos necesitan más capital. En épocas normales, los bancos reúnen capital vendiendo acciones a inversores extranjeros, quienes reciben a cambio una participación en la propiedad del banco. Podríamos pensar, entonces, que si los bancos en este momento no pueden reunir o no reunirán suficiente capital de inversores privados, el Estado debe hacer lo que haría el inversor privado: aportar capital a cambio de la propiedad parcial.

Pero las acciones bancarias valen hoy tan poco, que la propiedad no sería parcial: inyectar suficiente dinero de los contribuyentes para que los bancos vuelvan a ser fuertes los transformaría en empresas públicas.

Mi respuesta a eso es: ¿y qué? Si los contribuyentes pagan la dolorosa para rescatar a los bancos, ¿por qué no habrían de tener la propiedad, al menos hasta que aparezcan compradores privados? Pero la administración Obama parece estar dando millones de vueltas para evitar esta salida.

Si los informes son ciertos, el plan de rescate para los bancos contendrá dos elementos principales: la compra, por parte del Estado, de activos bancarios problemáticos y garantías sobre pérdidas relacionadas con otros activos. Las garantías serán un gran regalo para los accionistas bancarios; las compras podrían no serlo, si el precio fuera justo. Pero los precios, según The Financial Times, tal vez se basen en "modelos de valuación" antes que en los precios de mercado, lo que indica que el Estado también en este caso estaría haciendo un regalo.

Y a cambio de lo que probablemente sería un enorme subsidio para los accionistas, los contribuyentes recibirán. bueno, nada.

¿Habría límites a las remuneraciones de los ejecutivos para evitar más robos como los que enfurecieron a la gente? Obama denunció esas bonificaciones de Wall Street en su último discurso semanal. Pero según The Washington Post, "es probable que la administración se abstenga de imponer restricciones más fuertes a la remuneración de los ejecutivos en la mayoría de las empresas que reciben ayuda estatal" porque "los límites rígidos podrían disuadir a algunas empresas de pedir ayuda". Esto indica que el discurso duro de Obama es nada más que "pour la galerie".

Mientras tanto, la crisis no parece haber hecho demasiada mella en la cultura del exceso de Wall Street. "Digamos que soy banquero y generé U$S 30 millones. Debería recibir una parte de eso", dijo un banquero a The New York Times. ¿Y si usted es banquero y aniquiló U$S 30.000 millones? ¡Tío Sam ven a rescatarme!

Lo que se juega acá es mucho más que la equidad, aunque eso también importa. Salvar la economía será muy caro: el plan de estímulo de U$S 800.000 millones tal vez sea sólo un anticipo. Y rescatar al sistema financiero, aunque se haga bien, costará centenares de miles de millones más. No podemos darnos el lujo de despilfarrar dinero dando grandes beneficios a los bancos y a sus ejecutivos simplemente para conservar la ilusión de la propiedad privada.


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Fwd: Macroperu Protectionism - good or bad? It depends……

Protectionism - good or bad? It depends……

Posted by: Duncan Green (Oxfam), 3 February 2009


It's official. Protectionism is the Great Satan. Gordon Brown decries it in Davos; William Easterly crows over what he sees as Dani Rodrik's conversion to the cause. All countries must eschew protectionism or risk a disastrous return to the trade wars that triggered the Great Depression.

Hang on a minute. For the last decade of highly polarised debates on trade and globalization, many NGOs, along with economists like Ha-Joon Chang (and Rodrik – but I'll leave him to respond to Easterly), have argued something entirely different, namely that trade tariffs, and industrial policy in general, have played a vital role in the history of almost every successful economy, but the benefits of state intervention decline as an economy develops. I summarized the argument in From Poverty to Power:

'As economies developed and became more complex, and industries achieved international competitiveness, the costs and benefits of state intervention in both agriculture and industry shifted, and governments started to reduce their role and open up the economy. Exactly the same sequence had previously been adopted by rich countries at an earlier stage of development. Deregulation and liberalisation are thus better seen as the outcomes of successful development, rather than as initial conditions.'

In other words, it is not double standards, but history that leads to the argument that protectionism makes more sense in developing countries than in rich ones. This was the historical basis for the growing emphasis by developing countries on the need to retain `policy space' in trade and investment agreements.

Now that distinction appears to be going out the window. Does the advent of a global economic crisis mean that argument no longer applies? If anything, the reverse. In the early 1990s, when I was doing the research for Silent Revolution, a book on the rise of market economics in Latin America, I was blown away when I read Manufacturing Miracles, by Gary Gereffi and Donald Wyman, a comparison of industrialization and development in Latin America and East Asia.

Among its findings was that Asian NICs like South Korea and Taiwan were much more astute than the Latin Americans at riding the global economic tides. When the world economy was booming, they went all out for exports; when global markets slowed, they turned inwards in bouts of industrial upgrading that involved state-directed credit and other support, but also involved protecting themselves from imports of the more advanced sectors (iron and steel, chemicals etc) that they were trying to move into. i.e. protectionism.

If you buy that argument, then now is precisely the time when developing countries that were hitherto cashing in on the commodity boom should consider whether they want to diversify and upgrade, and if so, opt for a period of import substitution and hands-on industrial policy.

Perhaps the arguments are complicated by the severity and global nature of the recession, and the fact that more developing countries have become systemically significant, so that if China, for example follows the old path, it would really matter. But that is not the case for most developing countries – they could turn inwards and no-one would really notice. And anyway, if you believe the anti-China lobby, they've never been anything other than protectionist even in the boom!

Don't get me wrong, I still think protectionism is a lousy idea for the North, but we need to be more nuanced when it comes to development. Good thing or bad thing? Answer – sorry - it depends on who you are (and how you do it).

Duncan Green is Head of Research at Oxfam GB. Visit his development blog on http://www.oxfamblogs.org/fp2p/

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Fwd: Macroperu Cfdcimiento negativo en el IV Trimestre en casi todas las industrias relevantes.


Les envío nuevos gráficos que nos peprmiten comprobar que el crecmiento en el IV trimestre en el año si lo midieramos con el método que se usa en Estados Unidos es negativo



En el gráfico 14, la linea azul reperesnta la trayectoria del pbi desestacionalizado de la manhfactura: es facil apreciar que éste desciende desde el mes de septimebre.

Similar tendencia se rgistra en el sector que produce electricidad



En la construcción el decenso empezó en el mes de julio. Ha habido una leve recuperacion probablemente por al expansión de la inversión publica pero que no ha permitido recuperar el nivel de producto de los meses anteriores

En la Agricultura se registra un comoprtamiento similar pero menos notorio




En la mineri y la pesaca , sin mbargo, se registra crecimiento. En el caso de la minería, este crecimiento no tiene mayor relevancia porque puede ser perfectamente consistente con una disminución frástica de la sutiliades y de la ibnversión de ese sector.



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Fwd: Macroperu Muy grandes para un rescate



Too big to rescue

Posted by Edward Harrison on Sunday, 15 February 2009

After Iceland collapsed and went into Depression, there were a number of analyses in the press regarding countries with outsized financial sectors. The worry was that the collapse of Iceland was not an isolated incident, but rather a harbinger of things to come for smaller countries with large financial sectors. I wrote a post in November called "Iceland: a cautionary tale for small nations" which pointed to a number of countries that I considered vulnerable including Austria, Denmark, Ireland, Sweden and Switzerland. Even the United Kingdom has been a concern.

Those worries are still with us three months later. And with good reason as many countries in Eastern Europe are in or headed for Depression, Latvia being the most obvious example. (Many of the aforementioned economies have banks with large exposure to Eastern Europe).

Here is the crux of the matter: there are a number of banks, which are very large in relation to the size of their domestic economy. In the past, that has meant that they are too big to fail. Citigroup is a prime example of banks that fall into this category.

But, there are also a number of banks with an asset base that is disproportionately large mainly due to many overseas assets. I have pointed to Royal Bank of Scotland as a prime example. What this means is that the governments where these banks are domiciled cannot make credible guarantees regarding the institutions in question.

If we suffer a crisis of confidence and these banks come under attack, they become literally too big to rescue.

To give you a few numbers, I will give you some examples in no particular order.

  • Denmark - GDP: $312 billion; Danske Bank - Assets: $615 billion (197% of GDP)
  • United Kingdom - GDP: $2.8 trillion; RBS - Assets: $3.8 trillion or 136% of GDP (with HSBC and Barclays this rises to $8.6 trillion or 226% of GDP)
  • Switzerland - GDP: $313 492 billion; UBS and Credit Suisse - Assets: $3 trillion (958658% of GDP)
  • France - GDP: $2.6 trillion; BNP Paribas, Agricole, SocGen, and Dexia - Assets ($6.7 trillion or 259% of GDP)
  • Netherlands - GDP: $777 billion; ING - Assets: $1.8 trillion or 231% of GDP (with Fortis this rises to $2.9 trillion or 385% of GDP)
  • Germany - GDP: $3.3 trillion; Deutsche Bank - Assets: $2.7 trillion (83% of GDP)

This list is far from comprehensive — it does not include Sweden, Ireland or Austria and it does not include other non-bank financial companies like Hypo Real Estate or Allianz. Germany is the best of the bunch, largely due to the size of its economy. But if you add in Commerzbank (incl. Dresdner), Postbank, WestLB, and the Landesbanks of Baden Wuerttemburg and Bavaria, you have a problem there too. And many of these German institutions are already having problems.

The data all comes from Data Monitor and Wikipedia.

The long and short of it is: many countries in Western Europe have weak financial sectors with high systemic risk. The concern here deals mostly with the theory of reflexivity, popularized in finance by George Soros. Wikipedia has a decent definition:

In sociology, reflexivity is an act of self-reference where examination or action `bends back on', refers to, and affects the entity instigating the action or examination. In brief, reflexivity refers to circular relationships between cause and effect. A reflexive relationship is bidirectional; with both the cause and the effect affecting one another in a situation that renders both functions causes and effects. Reflexivity is related to the concept of feedback and positive feedback in particular.

An example is the interaction between beliefs and observations in a marketplace: if traders believe that prices will fall, they will sell - thus driving down prices, whereas if they believe prices will rise, they will buy - thereby driving prices up.

Whilst we have beaten back the panic which surfaced after Lehman Brothers collapsed, there are still nagging doubts about the health of the global financial system. And in a world of reflexivity, it does not take much for these doubts to manifest themselves in self-reinforcing panic and collapse. Paul Krugman says this is the key lesson from the Asian Crisis of 1997-1998 in his book "The Return of Depression Economics."

Looking at today's crisis, the datapoints I have just provided demand an aggressive policy response in order to eliminate worst-case outcomes. This is, in the main, the problem I have with the policy response to date in Europe and the United States. Hypothetically speaking, if we were to face a crisis where GM credit default swaps are triggered by bankruptcy or where Bank of America collapses, where the Austrian banking system required EU support or UBS faced bankruptcy — in these scenarios, is the present policy response sufficient to deal with the volatility that would result?

My answer is no.

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Germany - GDP: $3.3 trillion; Deutsche Bank - Assets: $2.7 trillion (83% of GDP)"Netherlands - GDP: $777 billion; ING - Assets: $1.8 trillion or 231% of GDP (with Fortis this rises to $2.9 trillion or 385% of GDP) France - GDP: $2.6 trillion; BNP Paribas, Agricole, SocGen, and Dexia - Assets ($6.7 trillion or 259% of GDP)Switzerland - GDP: $313 492 billion; UBS and Credit Suisse - Assets: $3 trillion (958658% of GDP) United Kingdom - GDP: $2.8 trillion; RBS - Assets: $3.8 trillion or 136% of GDP (with HSBC and Barclays this rises to $8.6 trillion or 226% of GDP) Denmark - GDP: $312 billion; Danske Bank - Assets: $615 billion (197% of GDP)"To give you a few numbers, I will give you some examples in no particular order.resultaría imposible.
para los paises desarrollados. En casos extremos el rescate
Quedan claras las razones del rescate al sector financiero. Impresionante el riesgo que implican los gigantes financieros

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Fwd: Macroperu Global Crisis Debate en Vox's

Repensando la macroeconomía:

"From a macroeconomic perspective, the crisis has thrown into question the standard models employed by academics, governments, central banks, and the private sector. Quite simply, this crisis could not have happened in the mainstream macro models. The world's macroeconomy, it seems, is radically more interconnected than we thought. Macroeconomists need a new Keynes, or at least a new Phelps or Lucas, to provide a parsimonious model where financial sector disturbances can be transmitted globally, producing recession and disinflation in their wake."

Progress report: Vox's Global Crisis Debate

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/3080

Richard Baldwin
16 February 2009


The world is in the midst of an unprecedented economic crisis – a global event unfolding at extraordinary speed and in unanticipated directions. Now more than ever, the world needs research-based policy analysis: i) to understand this global and insanely interconnected event, ii) to formulate plans for alleviating its worst effects, and iii) to fix the system so it doesn't happen again. Vox's Global Crisis Debate is a vehicle for agglomerating ideas on these issues.


The world is in the midst of an unprecedented economic crisis – a global event unfolding at extraordinary speed and in unanticipated directions.

Born as the `subprime crisis' in Fall 2007, the crisis metastasized in September 2008. Almost overnight, it transformed itself from a landmine, which threatened to do horrible but localised damaged, into a cluster bomb throwing explosive projectiles at a frightful pace in every direction.

Credit markets froze and equity prices plunged globally. Emergency measures by governments and central banks stabilised financial systems, yet credit markets continued to malfunction. Sharp credit contractions almost everywhere – combined with precipitous declines in business and consumer confidence – tipped the industrialised world into recession with unexpected speed. The crisis has spread to the emerging markets and developing nations – again at an unexpectedly abrupt pace and in unforeseen ways.

This is now a truly global economic event. Indeed, we are not far from the point where every form of economic activity on the planet will be touched in one way or the other.

A regime shift in global governance

From an international relations perspective, this crisis has moved the international system into new areas with unanticipated speed. Without ceremony, the G7 was "relieved of duty" and leadership responsibilities were placed in the G20's untested hands. Its first action came with the G20's November Summit in Washington, where leaders promised cooperation and coordination on many fronts. So far, deeds have not followed words, and the G20's credibility is under threat.

The implications of this regime shift are poorly understood, but the shift is likely to change all manner of international relations for decades to come.

From a macroeconomic perspective, the crisis has thrown into question the standard models employed by academics, governments, central banks, and the private sector. Quite simply, this crisis could not have happened in the mainstream macro models. The world's macroeconomy, it seems, is radically more interconnected than we thought. Macroeconomists need a new Keynes, or at least a new Phelps or Lucas, to provide a parsimonious model where financial sector disturbances can be transmitted globally, producing recession and disinflation in their wake.

On the trade side, the unexpectedly rapid decline of trade flows – both imports and exports (this is no standard Keynesian trade shock) – has reminded us how trade today is different. Things are no longer made in one nation and shipped to another. Nations make bits and pieces and ship them on to be combined with more bits and pieces. One fewer Japanese car exported to the US reduces trade volumes among a complex international supply chain in East Asia, Mexico, and beyond. And nations are starting to respond with new and worrying forms of protectionism. The WTO's bulwark against 1930s style protectionism is proving its worth, but governments are getting inventive when it comes to policies that shift aggregate demand towards domestic firms and workers.

On the finance side, there is now almost universal recognition that the world needs a better regulatory framework. The nature of modern finance has changed – much of it in reaction to the last round of regulatory changes – and with it so has the nature of financial crises, systemic risk, and the macroeconomic consequences. Much more than their macro colleagues, the finance professors have taken up the intellectual change with great vigour and rigour (see Philippon 2009). Maybe it's because they all know that this will be a once-a lifetime opportunity to make the world a better place using their highly specialised knowledge.

A generation-defining opportunity

This global crisis is undoubtedly the economic policy challenge of our generation. It is also one where academic economists are making a unique contribution. This is a crisis where the unthinkable happens monthly and the improbable is an almost daily event. It is no exaggeration to say that governments are making it up as they go along, and they know it. They are, consequently, unusually and extraordinarily open to outside analysis.

Vox's Global Crisis Debate

In January 2009, Vox launched the Global Crisis Debate in partnership with the UK government's own website devoted to what is sometimes called the G20 Summit that they are hosting on 2 April. The UK government is currently in the process of crafting the agenda for that summit – to be known as the London Summit. The partnership with Vox is helping them broaden the catchment area for economic thinking on the crisis beyond the usual suspects that dominate the main Western media outlets, the Financial Times, Economist magazine, and other major national papers.

One of the contributions to Vox's Global Crisis Debate is featured every day on the front page of UK government's site www.LondonSummit.gov.uk. (see screen shot).

Progress report

The Global Crisis Debate has two types of contributions. "Lead Commentaries" are standard Vox columns, written by leading economists. "Commentaries" are shorter pieces, 200 – 1000 words, written by professional economists from a variety of nations, institutions, and schools of thought.

The Global Crisis Debate started with 5 themes and moderators: Development (Dani Rodrik), Macro (Philip Lane), Regulation (Luigi Zingales), Institutional reform (Francesco Giavazzi), Open Markets (Richard Baldwin). The Scientific Committee consists of Hadi Soesastro (Jakarta) and Barry Eichengreen (Berkeley).

The response has been great. During the two weeks since the Global Crisis Debate was launched, the contributions have been viewed a collective total of 55,000 times. At first, the Development theme took the lead in readership – perhaps reflecting the lack of a global platform for the sort of commentary that Dani Rodrik rounded up to launch the conversation, or the truly stellar line up of the `pump priming' Commentaries. More recently, however, the Financial Regulation and Macro themes have surged ahead with 19,000 reads and 18,000 reads, respectively, reflecting their role at the heart of the crisis.

The number of contributors to the debates is still modest, with fewer than 200 authors across the five themes. I hope that more will join as the debate evolves. Vox, in partnership with the UK's Foreign Office, has invited Commentaries from well-known economists from all G20 nations that were identified by local British Embassy officials. The response to these invitations has been modest to date, but of very high quality. A typical reply to these invitations suggested that these economists had their hands too full with "fire-fighting" the crisis to spend much time writing about it on public forums.

Call to the keyboards

Plans for the London Summit suggest that the main outlines of the world's policy responses will be agreed in April 2009. After that, it will be much harder to influence the debate on, for example, the nature of financial regulatory reform or the role and shape of the IMF.

Vox readers around the world should leap to their keyboards and share their knowledge and insight. Now more than ever, the world needs research-based policy analysis i) to understand this global and insanely interconnected event, ii) to formulate plans for alleviating its worse effects, and iii) to fix the system so it doesn't happen again.

Below are screen shots of Vox's global readership at two points in a 24 hour cycle (you can follow this live here).

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